Thank you! I almost posted something to that thread but the train was already so far out of the station… Nothing wrong with 18 yo’s fresh off the back of a pick up selling themselves to 80 year old white guys. But heaven forbid that young boys learn Muay Thai and fight. I guess it would be OK if they just got those amazing bodies but never had to hit each other? … as long as they would rent them to us for brief periods.
Well the timing of your request was spot on Christian!
Alexsaid:
It took me a while to get what you’re talking about here, as my ISP is kind and caring enough to block SGT. Now that I know what it’s all about, good on you for poking some fun on these d-heads! 🙂
Huh. My cable TV provider is showing the same kind and caring attention by blocking Comedy Central.
🙂
Alexsaid:
What our respective providers do is in our best interest, that’s for sure! 😛
Scottish-Guysaid:
Irrespective of the legalities of the matter (a bizarre juxtaposition) – if commentators such as Glenn can conflate an 18yo adult choosing to rent himself out, with two 10yo boys who don’t know any better, being egged on to injure each other for the amusement of a crowd of baying spectators who are probably betting on the outcome, then one has to wonder at their mental capacity.
These are the sort of people who probably think it quite acceptable to go out and shoot a few wild animals for a laugh.
Using hyperbole such as “10 yo boys who don’t know any better, being egged on to injure each other for the amusement of a crowd of baying spectators” to describe how Muay Thai is viewed in Thailand won’t win you many converts to your side of the debate Scottish. As entertaining as it may be.
Nong Toom, the ladyboy boxer of Beautiful Boxer fame, who opened a Muay Thai training camp does a good job of expressing what the sport can do for rural children, as well as those who are gay. It has little to do with amusing braying spectators:
(BTW, your email addy goes to the top of my list of fake addresses! Thanks for the laugh!)
Glennsaid:
My point is that both potentially do damage. But most seem to be perfectly happy to look the other way when it comes to those issues that effect boys (adult or not, a young guy fresh from the farm isn’t a worldly person) who end up in the sex business.
Plenty of other sports can be dangerous for kids too. Do you want to outlaw football because a child who heads the ball too many times can suffer concussion issues. Or can end up with broken bones due to a tackle. Or an accidental clash of heads can cause injury. Or the list could go on. Or how about wrestling? While injuries are not common as far as I know there is certainly potential for all sorts of injury in a sport like that, including from kids starving themselves and worse to make weight. All sorts of pursuits that kids engage in can be dangerous to them.
Mitch S.said:
A classic comic! Thanks for all of your effort on this blog. Always entertaining!
Scottish-Guysaid:
LOL, so it’s hyperbole when I write about “10yo’s who don’t know any better” but it’s not hyperbole when others write about “18yo’s fresh off the back of a pick up, selling themselves to 80yo white guys”? How does that work?
Well we will have to agree to disagree on our opposing views of this so-called “sport” – incidentally all comments I have made on SGT (and which you have referred to here) related to boxing generally rather than Muay Thai specifically.
My email address is entirely genuine by the way – although it deliberately and grossly understates the actual size of my appendage so as not to appear boastful or leave my email recipients feeling inadequate. I care.
You’re right Scottish. That was my call so I’ll take the hit. I saw your comment as an attempt to sway opinion and didn’t view Glenn’s the same. My bad. We all know that he too over stated the situation:, it’s 18-year-olds servicing 70 year olds and most take the bus into town, not a truck.
🙂
More importantly: I assumed from the domain your addy was fake; it being real just makes it that much more brilliant! I’m stealing it for my next spam account (adjusted upward of course). I just love the idea of getting spam addressed to the size and cut of my prodigious member!
timsaid:
the best part of this argument was neal talking about how he didnt like the younguns .. but was happy to look at a 17yr old and think … wow he will be a looker when he turns 18 … classic …
MMMMMMMMMM, though I fear we’re still off by a few years on one of those age brackets.
Mitch S.said:
Soccer should be banned immediately. So dangerous! Many injuries. I once visited a friend’s son in the hospital after he had been kicked in the shin during a soccer match & an infection developed.
Bike riding is equally hazardous. Have you ever seen one of those “Tour duh France” mass crashes?
You know very well from your own background that swimmers can develop rotator cuff problems, ear infections, green hair, etc. 😉
Ghastly diving board or diving platform accidents justify banning yet another sport.
Anyway, the guys I’ve met in Thailand who actually practice Muay Thai do it for fitness, fun, and self-defense skills. Some dream of a career & money for the family, but kids do that about many sports before reality sets in. So many people here who do not practice the sport watch the matches on TV. I’ve been to Lumphini Stadium five times & enjoy the pre-match rituals, going backstage to watch the preparations (especially the leg massages) & to photograph the boxers; however, I am definitely more squeamish when the younger boxers have bloodied faces than if the boxers are older.
Scottish-Guysaid:
I’m sorry but these comparisons to soccer, basketball, bike-racing, swimming or the like are simply ridiculous.
I hesitate to call people dim-witted (actually I don’t) – but in all these other sports the primary objective is to play or win the game and any injuries suffered are either accidental or, if deliberate, are punished by the referee.
How this can seriously be compared to boxing (of all types) where the primary objective it to punch or kick people in the face or head either to score points or (ultimately) to render them incapable of defending themselves, is dim-witted at best and more probably just plain disingenuous.
Huh.
And yet you have no problem with beating a dead horse.
Serious in juries from the other sports as mentioned are valid to the conversation. You seem to want to focus on intent only, or at least your version of the intent of boxing as a sport, while discounting the end result. There have been more people killed or seriously injured while snow skiing than seriously injured or killed while boxing. I don’t see how you can leave that out of the equation. Other than it is convenient to do so.
Sounds a lot like those who are ‘pro-life’ and yet support capital punishment.
Mitch S.said:
Dead horse? More like pompous ass! 😉
timsaid:
im not a great fan of boxing .. but i do belive it has saved far more lives than it has taken … if most of the people who box didnt have it in their lives they would be dead by the bullet, drugs or something else.
boxing gives disadvantaged youngsters a reason to be …
bruno .. nutter … tyson .. nutter … if not for boxing they would be dead now ..
Glenn said:
Thank you! I almost posted something to that thread but the train was already so far out of the station… Nothing wrong with 18 yo’s fresh off the back of a pick up selling themselves to 80 year old white guys. But heaven forbid that young boys learn Muay Thai and fight. I guess it would be OK if they just got those amazing bodies but never had to hit each other? … as long as they would rent them to us for brief periods.
Bangkokbois said:
The world would be a much different place if irony was a required subject in grade school.
ChristianPFC said:
Sunday Funnies back due to popular demand. Thank you!
Bangkokbois said:
Well the timing of your request was spot on Christian!
Alex said:
It took me a while to get what you’re talking about here, as my ISP is kind and caring enough to block SGT. Now that I know what it’s all about, good on you for poking some fun on these d-heads! 🙂
Bangkokbois said:
Huh. My cable TV provider is showing the same kind and caring attention by blocking Comedy Central.
🙂
Alex said:
What our respective providers do is in our best interest, that’s for sure! 😛
Scottish-Guy said:
Irrespective of the legalities of the matter (a bizarre juxtaposition) – if commentators such as Glenn can conflate an 18yo adult choosing to rent himself out, with two 10yo boys who don’t know any better, being egged on to injure each other for the amusement of a crowd of baying spectators who are probably betting on the outcome, then one has to wonder at their mental capacity.
These are the sort of people who probably think it quite acceptable to go out and shoot a few wild animals for a laugh.
Bangkokbois said:
Using hyperbole such as “10 yo boys who don’t know any better, being egged on to injure each other for the amusement of a crowd of baying spectators” to describe how Muay Thai is viewed in Thailand won’t win you many converts to your side of the debate Scottish. As entertaining as it may be.
Nong Toom, the ladyboy boxer of Beautiful Boxer fame, who opened a Muay Thai training camp does a good job of expressing what the sport can do for rural children, as well as those who are gay. It has little to do with amusing braying spectators:
https://bangkokbois.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/muay-thai-a-tale-of-two-titties/
(BTW, your email addy goes to the top of my list of fake addresses! Thanks for the laugh!)
Glenn said:
My point is that both potentially do damage. But most seem to be perfectly happy to look the other way when it comes to those issues that effect boys (adult or not, a young guy fresh from the farm isn’t a worldly person) who end up in the sex business.
Plenty of other sports can be dangerous for kids too. Do you want to outlaw football because a child who heads the ball too many times can suffer concussion issues. Or can end up with broken bones due to a tackle. Or an accidental clash of heads can cause injury. Or the list could go on. Or how about wrestling? While injuries are not common as far as I know there is certainly potential for all sorts of injury in a sport like that, including from kids starving themselves and worse to make weight. All sorts of pursuits that kids engage in can be dangerous to them.
Mitch S. said:
A classic comic! Thanks for all of your effort on this blog. Always entertaining!
Scottish-Guy said:
LOL, so it’s hyperbole when I write about “10yo’s who don’t know any better” but it’s not hyperbole when others write about “18yo’s fresh off the back of a pick up, selling themselves to 80yo white guys”? How does that work?
Well we will have to agree to disagree on our opposing views of this so-called “sport” – incidentally all comments I have made on SGT (and which you have referred to here) related to boxing generally rather than Muay Thai specifically.
My email address is entirely genuine by the way – although it deliberately and grossly understates the actual size of my appendage so as not to appear boastful or leave my email recipients feeling inadequate. I care.
Bangkokbois said:
You’re right Scottish. That was my call so I’ll take the hit. I saw your comment as an attempt to sway opinion and didn’t view Glenn’s the same. My bad. We all know that he too over stated the situation:, it’s 18-year-olds servicing 70 year olds and most take the bus into town, not a truck.
🙂
More importantly: I assumed from the domain your addy was fake; it being real just makes it that much more brilliant! I’m stealing it for my next spam account (adjusted upward of course). I just love the idea of getting spam addressed to the size and cut of my prodigious member!
tim said:
the best part of this argument was neal talking about how he didnt like the younguns .. but was happy to look at a 17yr old and think … wow he will be a looker when he turns 18 … classic …
Bangkokbois said:
Fine. Then it’s 17-year-olds not 18, and they ride into town on Neal’s scooter not the bus.
I think it is important we get these facts straight.
tim said:
well they do say the devil is in the detail … so i belive you are correct.
Bangkokbois said:
MMMMMMMMMM, though I fear we’re still off by a few years on one of those age brackets.
Mitch S. said:
Soccer should be banned immediately. So dangerous! Many injuries. I once visited a friend’s son in the hospital after he had been kicked in the shin during a soccer match & an infection developed.
Bike riding is equally hazardous. Have you ever seen one of those “Tour duh France” mass crashes?
You know very well from your own background that swimmers can develop rotator cuff problems, ear infections, green hair, etc. 😉
Ghastly diving board or diving platform accidents justify banning yet another sport.
Anyway, the guys I’ve met in Thailand who actually practice Muay Thai do it for fitness, fun, and self-defense skills. Some dream of a career & money for the family, but kids do that about many sports before reality sets in. So many people here who do not practice the sport watch the matches on TV. I’ve been to Lumphini Stadium five times & enjoy the pre-match rituals, going backstage to watch the preparations (especially the leg massages) & to photograph the boxers; however, I am definitely more squeamish when the younger boxers have bloodied faces than if the boxers are older.
Scottish-Guy said:
I’m sorry but these comparisons to soccer, basketball, bike-racing, swimming or the like are simply ridiculous.
I hesitate to call people dim-witted (actually I don’t) – but in all these other sports the primary objective is to play or win the game and any injuries suffered are either accidental or, if deliberate, are punished by the referee.
How this can seriously be compared to boxing (of all types) where the primary objective it to punch or kick people in the face or head either to score points or (ultimately) to render them incapable of defending themselves, is dim-witted at best and more probably just plain disingenuous.
Bangkokbois said:
Huh.
And yet you have no problem with beating a dead horse.
Serious in juries from the other sports as mentioned are valid to the conversation. You seem to want to focus on intent only, or at least your version of the intent of boxing as a sport, while discounting the end result. There have been more people killed or seriously injured while snow skiing than seriously injured or killed while boxing. I don’t see how you can leave that out of the equation. Other than it is convenient to do so.
Sounds a lot like those who are ‘pro-life’ and yet support capital punishment.
Mitch S. said:
Dead horse? More like pompous ass! 😉
tim said:
im not a great fan of boxing .. but i do belive it has saved far more lives than it has taken … if most of the people who box didnt have it in their lives they would be dead by the bullet, drugs or something else.
boxing gives disadvantaged youngsters a reason to be …
bruno .. nutter … tyson .. nutter … if not for boxing they would be dead now ..
Bangkokbois said:
Good point Tim.
Though I’m not sure Tyson was the best example to use.