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Maybe the myth that is Tawan makes sense. For gay men who are into muscle, Tawan holds a special place in their fantasies not unlike Shangri-la, Utopia, Cockaigne, or Ys, all mythical locales of pleasure and indulgence. The difference – beside the naked beefcake – is that Tawan is not just a legendary place; it’s real. Tawan, if it were just imaginary, would be heaven on earth for many. Confronted with the reality of the place, many walk away disappointed. Many more never even make it to the bar’s doors, but have no problem in helping to build its reputation, one that is constructed by misconceptions.
The myth that is Tawan is difficult to resist, even for those who will never visit the place. No other bar in Thailand manages to capture the attention of so many. And no other bar in Thailand manages to get so much bad and incorrect press. Part of the Tawan’s PR problem, just like with other places of legend, is rather than turn to fact many prefer to stay within the realm of fantasy. Tawan as a subject comes up on the gay Thailand forums regularly. Most often the thread is started by someone who has heard of the bar, has not been there, and has a few questions – usually already demonstrating they’ve fallen for the hype by the manner in which their question is posed. In one such thread not long ago, three punters – Pattaya aficionados – all immediately chimed in with valuable advice. All three stated they do not like muscular men. All three stated they had never been to the bar. And then all three went on to complain that the guys who work at Tawan are duds in bed and charge the highest fees in Thailand. None of which is true, all of which the three claimed they had heard from a friend.
This has led to the bar’s undeserved reputation. And it is not just the cost of Tawan boys that have become exaggerated, everything about the bar takes on unrealistic proportions in the collective mind of the internet. Meanwhile, back in the real world, Tawan packs customers in even when the other bars in town are empty, the guys there get offed more frequently than they do elsewhere, and happy customers return again and again. Tawan is one of the oldest continually operating male gogo bars in Bangkok. The owner and manager have been running the place for decades and know what they are doing. And speaking from personal experience, I have never once been disappointed with any guy I have offed from Tawan. Which have been legion.
The Myth: Tawan Guys Charge More.
The Reality: Many seem to buy into the idea that pound for pound the more muscular bar boys in Bangkok should command a higher tip. And I really can’t disagree. Though in my fee schedule it is the twinky little fems who should be penalized with a discount from the norm rather than the muscular being awarded bonus baht. But the fact is that the off fee and average tip is the same within any bar regardless of the build or masculinity of the boy. And while off fees from one bar to the next may fluctuate, the guys from Dream Boys, where the off is the highest on Soi Twilight, do not generate higher tips than do the guys from any of the other bars on the soi. The same holds true for Tawan. Just because the bar specializes in muscle does not mean the boys there are worthy of higher tips. Regardless of how willing some may be to pay them more.
This idea always springs from the mind of the uninitiated, those who have not experienced the bar world of Thailand. First, bar boys in Thailand do not charge a set fee. The system is based on tips, the amount of which is up to you. Yes, some bar boys specify how much they want in advance (though I believe in many cases this is in answer to being asked how much they charge and not something they initiate.) But that is not the norm.
Tawan guys do in fact often get higher tips than boys working in the other bars around town. Part of that is the misconception among punters that they are supposed to pay a bigger tip. The fact is this is not true. The boys are just as happy (well not as happy, but just as willing) to accept the normal short or long time tip paid elsewhere. Large tips at Tawan are a self-fulfilling prophecy started by customers. There is no reason for you to buy into the falsehood. Tip as you would at any other gogo bar in Bangkok.
The Myth: Tawan Guys are duds in bed.
The Reality: The ratio of duds and studs at Tawan is no different than at any other gogo bar in Thailand. How good of a time you have in bed with any one of them – or with any bar boy – has a lot to do with your attitude and with your preconceptions. In a perfect world every guy working in a bar would automatically know just what each of his customers wants, and then would deliver the time of your life. In reality, bar boys are not mind readers, what makes one customer ecstatic does nothing for the next. So communication is key.
Before agreeing to off a guy you should fully communicate exactly what you want unless you will be happy with whatever you get. If it is important to you, speak up. Telling the guy what it is you want to do and what it is you want him to do provides him with the information he needs to make your ending a happy one. And if what you want is beyond his abilities, most will tell you so. Though you may want to brush up on Thai culture and nonverbal communication covered elsewhere in this blog so you know what it is he is really saying.
You will also find that the guys at Tawan, likes bar boys elsewhere in the city, react well to customers who show them a good time and are enjoyable to be with. Sanook, the Thai ideal of having fun, is part of their culture and you’ll have more of the fun you are interested in if you in turn see that they too enjoy themselves. Just being pleasant to be around can make a big difference. Try smiling – it will put a smile on your face after you are done if you start out with one.
I realize newbies to the bar world are a bit nervous, are unfamiliar with the process, and many off a guy expecting him, as the experienced one, to know what to do. It seldom happens that way. You have to take matters in your own hands unless you want the results to be no better than if you stayed in your hotel room and took matters in your own hands.
The Myth: Tawan Guys Won’t Do Anything In Bed.
The Reality: The truth is there are some things guys from Tawan won’t do in bed. And then again, some will. It’s easy to claim after the fact that the guy you offed was not willing to perform. Or only did enough to earn his tip and then flee. Regardless of who should be responsible for your satisfaction, again, it is up to you to determine how well things turn out.
Many Tawan bar boys get offed by customers who want to do nothing more than admire their muscular bodies. It is a standard of customer desire for that bar, and it is one of the few things that differentiate Tawan from the other bars; muscle worshipers need muscles to worship. How does the guy know that that is not what you want unless you tell him so? Most of the guys working at Tawan want to please you. And being Thai, do not want to do anything to displease you. Give them a hint. Seldom will they initiate specific sexual moves out of concern that whatever it is they thought up is something that would not be to your liking.
Once in bed is not the time to determine if the guy you offed is willing to do the things that curl your toes. Lay out the parameters of your desires before leaving the bar. Or better yet, just go with the flow and enjoy whatever comes your way.
The Myth: Tawan Guys Are All Straight.
The Reality: Almost all of the guys working at Tawan are straight. So this one is true. But then so are most of the bar boys working at gogo bars in Thailand. Who cares? Let’s not forget where it is they are working and what that job entails. Having sex with another man might not be on their list of favorite things to do, but it is something they have agreed to. And Thais tend to be quite fluid about sexual identity.
Just like bar boys working elsewhere, both gay and straight, some kiss, some don’t. It has nothing to do with being straight or gay. Some are willing to top, some are willing to bottom. Neither may be a natural choice but if needed the little blue pill is a bar boy’s best friend, and if you have set them up to want to please you – and are willing to be discreet – you’d be surprised at how many of these macho studs will roll over for you.
I’m always amazed by punters who claim they would never off a straight bar boy. First, unless the guy is a screaming queen, the idea that they would know how the guy self identifies is ridiculous. Just as humorous is the idea that a gay bar boy is the holy grail. The boy’s sexuality has little to do with how good of a time you will have with him. You are just as likely to land a dud who is gay as you are one who is straight. And gay bar boys are no more likely to want to do whatever you have in mind than straight ones are.
The Myth: Tawan Guys Are All Muscle Gods
The Reality: I feel for the touri who make the grand pilgrimage to Tawan during off season when there are no body building contests on the horizon. Expecting to walk into a muscle queen’s wet dream, he enters Tawan only to find a stage full of beefy – and running to fat – guys who even the most generous, at best, would call not that good looking.
Even at the height of the season when all the current crop of stars are in the house there is still a B list – or maybe that’s C or even D list – of guys working Tawan who qualify as beef thanks to flab not muscle. Do not expect that every one will be a god. The hottest guys tend to get offed early, so waiting for the midnight show to hit the bar is not a good idea if you plan on offing a boy. Go early. And if you arrive ten to fifteen minutes before showtime, don’t think that the guys on stage are all that is available that night. Many who will be in the show are busy getting ready for their grand entrance. It may pay to hang around and wait to see who else makes an appearance before you make your selection.
Tawan has survived for decades because it consistently offers Bangkok’s best selection of well-built guys. Despite the rumors you may have heard, the boys there are friendly and willing to please. Ignore what you may have heard, go with an open mind and with a friendly attitude and you will have a good time. Communicate your desires before offing a guy, tip him the amount you feel comfortable with, and you are guaranteed a happy ending.
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Hendrikbkk said:
And what about the myth the more muscle, the smaller cock? Or shall I ask the HiSo Ladies of Pataya?
Bangkokbois said:
lol
I’m sure the HiSo Ladies of Pattaya would tell you that isn’t a myth. But something tells me if they discovered it was a falsehood they’d suddenly develop a great appreciation for muscled guys!
I tend to want to believe the heavily muscle bound, especially those who used steroids to get that way, suffer from that small problem. But I’ve experienced muscled guys of all sizes. Nut, who worked at Tawan, was athletically built when I met him and for being such a small guy bloomed to an impressive size. Over the years he developed his body to being what anyone would call muscle bound. It had no impact on his most important muscle. So maybe for many it is only a matter of perspective – surrounded by thunderous thighs less built parts of the body will appear smaller than they may really be.
Andre said:
We went to Tawan yesterday 😉 so this post came just in time! We were a tad disappointed, it was not really busy and though the boys where muscular they were not always goodlooking, just like you said 😀
After leaving when the show started to involve smacking the boys with a big dildo like whip, we decided to go to hot male and see if we could find Noom 😛
He was there! We immidiately asked him over (mamasan was confused with us asking for him by name, number and pointing, he did get it right after a while)
Noom is awesome, sweet and funny. When we showed him your blog on our iPhone he started to laugh very loud! Internet superstar! You are lucky to have found him! After tipping Noom for his time he had to do the show, but afterwards he returned hell-bound to find us the perfect boy 😉 he recommended a guy as even the mamasan seemed to be very enthusiastic about the guy. After a bit of hesitation we figured we could trust Noom (even though the mamasan agreed) and asked the boy over. Needless to say, we offed the boy and tipped Noom again for his trouble! NOom was right! The boy was very good and nice to boot 😉
Anyhow, we just wanted to share te story and give you a hug from noOm 😉 tnx for your stories, we enjoy them very much. Also we gave your cut to noOm 😀 sorry!
Bangkokbois said:
I’ve never figured out why Tawan is so big on those pseudo SM acts, but have to admit the masks they wear are sometimes a blessing.
🙂
I emailed Noom to tell him not to be spending my cut and got back: “How you know that?”
ROFL
I think he just realized if he ever gets the urge to slip on a pair of high heels and get up on stage with the ladyboys he is sooooo busted!
Thanks for the update Andre, and thanks for undoubtedly making Noom’s night. As much as he loves baht I swear he enjoys getting one of his bar mates bidness even more.
Jojo said:
Personally I don’t believe that the more muscle one has, the smaller the cock. Perhaps the cock looks smaller due to the size of his body giving it the illusion that it is smaller when in fact it was always that size from the beginning. Simple concept of proportions.
I love muscle guys though I tend to be choosy as to get muscle guys who also have the “appeal” or face value ….. the elusive x-factor. I like Tawan when I visited Thailand long ago but not all the muscle guys there attracted me.
Bangkokbois said:
Yup Jojo I think it is a matter of perspective in most cases just like how an average sized dick looks so much bigger on a small guy.
tim said:
as a non pattaya expert . i can say ive never been to any of the muscle go go bars of soi twilight and doubt i ever will … muscle really does nothing for me .. ive often sat outside and seen the hunks walk past .. cant say ive ever been tempted … but after saying that im sure they are all wonderful people .. but we are all different, which is a good think im sure you’d agree ….
im not sure im feeling well at the moment as im thinking to try a bit of thai pussy on my next trip !!!!! yikes …
i did try to find your last post about the boards but couldnt ..after a year i think ive finally given up on them …. once the owner feels the need to pipe up on every subject then all is lost .. as for arranging dyas trips to try and earn a few baht .. well i never maybe times really are hard 🙁 you also said you wanted to see beachy back !!!
well i belive hes moved to new york and started to call himself bruce …
then again i aways did …
Bangkokbois said:
Yikes! Before you go off half cocked Tim, maybe you should work your way up to pussy and try a ladyboy first? (Half cocked. lol. I crack myself up.)
tim said:
you crack yourself up and im thinking of going up crack !!!! and i was a day in advance of your news about the boards .. timing is a good a point as my spelling most of the time .
Bangkokbois said:
lol, not bad . . .
Kevin N said:
Great story Bangkokbois and Andre!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
Eli said:
Hi, I’m just curious. The customers at Tawan are usually of what age range? I’m 25 and I plan to go there soon. 🙂
Bangkokbois said:
It depends on tthe night Eli, but usually there qre quite a few of the 50+ crowd as there is at most of the bars. Weekends Tawan attracts a good number of younger Asian guys too. But then it is the guys working there, not the audience, that makes the bar. And any guy you decide to off will be pleased to land a young customer I’m sure.
Eli said:
Hey, just got back from Bangkok. Here’s my experience with a Tawan bar boy:
I went to Tawan for three nights in a row, but I only “off”ed a guy on my last night there (didn’t really plan it though). It wasn’t really a pleasant experience. We went out for some drinks, and had a chat (well, more like a one way conversation, but in all fairness he is more of the quiet type).
After that, I wanted to go back to my room. I asked whether he wants to go back, or would he want to spend the night with me (nope, wasn’t looking for sex, just company for the night). He wanted to come with me. I did tell him that I don’t intend to have sex, and he nodded (my mistake: believing that his nod meant he understood what I was saying)
In my room, we both showered. By the time I finished showering, he was on bed ready for sex….I got dressed and slowly explained to him that I wasn’t looking for sex, just company for the night. He asked a few times to be sure. After that, he told me he wanted to leave as he has to work at 8.00am on the next day. I don’t really mind. But then he said he’s willing to stay for 4,000 bath.
So I sent him off with 1,200 bath instead (I initially plan on giving more, but him asking for 4,000 bath kinda ticked me off). He tried asking for more. I told him all we ever did was go out for drinks (I didn’t really touch him at all), and I thought this was fair.
So yeah, my first was a case of bad luck. I’m sure it was partly because of the miscommunication on what I actually wanted.
But I’ll be sure to visit Tawan again, and try my luck with another guy (this time with better communication, definitely).
PS: Your guide was really helpful !!
Bangkokbois said:
Thanks for sharing Eli, though I am sad to hear your night was a bit off. I’ve no doubt you confused the hell out of that boy!
🙂
And yes, that was the famous, “Yes, I have no idea what you are talking about” nod.
I do hope you have better luck next time. Maybe spend a bit longer at the bar with the guy first? And if you need someone to tell him what you have planned, that ancient, scrawny slightly fem man – not trying to be rude but that describes him well) is the manager, speaks good English, and his ‘translation’ will come out as more of an order.
Eli said:
Thanks for the advise. I’ll be sure to look out for the manager the next time I’m there. All in all, I thought it was a good experience. Since I wasn’t really looking for sex, I wasn’t that disappointed with how things turn out.
Though, I’m pretty sure my tipping him in that manner will earn me a rather bad rep. Oh well, I’ll know the next time I’m there. 🙂
Bangkokbois said:
Yeah, hard to go wrong with a room full of half naked muscle guys . . .
Eli said:
Hey, just wondering whether Tawan would usually have any events around May-June? The website’s kinda outdated.
Bangkokbois said:
May/June is sooooo far off in the way Thais think I doubt you’ll find any info about planned events now. Check back like the week before your trip.
The events are normally contests (handsome guy, etc.) which can be fun. But on those nights the bar is given over to the event and it is not business as usual. The shows are shortened, if they have them at all, and the regular stable of guys seldom take the stage. 90% of the guys entering whatever the contest is are not from the bar and are not offable. If you haven’t visited Tawan before, or only a few times, you’re better off going on a night when no special event is planned.
Eli said:
Gotcha! Thanks for the tips 🙂
as-boy said:
Just get in the way, do the bar have such contest event somewhere around songkran festival in April? do they charge extra usually for such events? is it crowded? it might be fun to be with friends there to grab a beer and watch this cute boy on stage showing off their pride and doing catwalk…hahaha…thanks for the information!
Bangkokbois said:
Usually when there is a special event there is a door charge.
But I doubt Songkran would be the right time – the whole town is already having a big party!
as-boy said:
right. maybe after the festival…thanks..
Caleb Wickham said:
Gentlemen, each of our experiences (above) differ, but each comes down to (a) the bar on the night, (b) communication and (c) the attitude with which one approaches both sides of the baht. I love muscle, I love smooth, brown skin. Put the two together and I chose Tawan as a starting point for getting ‘Soi’led. As well, having the sort of guide that says, “Go on, swim.” and then tells you where the deep end is and how deep, what could I do but test the scenario? Herewith two nights.
Background: on my way to BKK I purchased some of what I consider
‘General Reading’ magazines: DNA magazine, OUT magazine and a
body-building magazine. I also had travelled Business Class where they
hand out those little packs with eye-shades and toothbrushes in them.
So, given all the parameters studded within the First-timers Guide I – V, I managed to choose a hotel close to a bar that stocked my predilection, reconnoitre the area during the day while the bars were closed, counted the streets from A to B, noted the landmarks to and fro, filled my wallet with an estimation based on the Guide and then buggered off to have a manicure.
The hotel I chose had a promotion that gave – among other things – a voucher to a male-only beauty salon which comprised a free facial, manicure and pedicure. I hadn’t shaved, so I thought the facial was out until I mentioned it to the non-English speaking Thai apprentice who queried my comments with the manager. Can do – they did shaves! Heaven. One more thing to cross off my must-do list. So I had a manicure, a pedicure, a man shave me (such a sexy feeling, so sleek) and a facial (with a limb massage as this-and-that was waiting to dry), all for B600 / $10. I’m staying here again! I gave the guy that dealt with my peripheries and the guy that did the facial and massage B300 / $5 each, for which they pled their troth for eternity. Do you remember the opening scenes from Liasons Dangeroux, where John Malkovich wakes and dresses for his meeting with Glenn Close? Same same but different: I went in at three and floated out at just before eight. I was in the zone.
Then to the Tawan, my go-go bar of choice, a block away. I followed the First-timers Guide as closely as I could remember:
Tipped the captain [x],
didn’t stop and gawk [x],
sat nonchalantly and smiled at all and sundry [x],
bought drinks for them as the ‘boys’ turned up at the table [x],
didn’t wave anyone away [x].
agreed to shout the three best boys to dinner [x]
apologised to a fourth, but said I’d be back tomorrow night [x]
convivially told them to order what they wanted [x]
paid [x]
went back to the hotel room and chatted [x]
bought out the muscle mag [triumph!]
I explained en route that the night would not necessarily involve sex. Well, Foucault me if their jaws didn’t drop when I said that I just wanted to chill and talk. “But what about sex?”, they each said to each other and then to me. “We can’t go back to the [go-go bar] now! We’re full and sleepy. Sure you don’t want something from us?” (Thinks: No, lads, but you are now under my Nice Guy spell. I’ll see you all tomorrow night.) Sex would have ruined the moment of having three body builders on my bed and unmasked me for the cad I am; tomorrow night runs to a different script.
I ended up gaining face by not wanting head; I ogled, touched through clothes while comparing with the magazine, had a jolly chat about where we’d been (none of us from Bangkok: one Isan Thai, one Yunnan Thai and one very, very, very cute English-speaking Lao boy… well, men – all of them), then they left intact and new best friends; they’ll relay all this to their buddies at the bar. I have laid the groundwork for another night that will be much more visceral.
It’s not what you pay; it’s whether you consider
you’ve gotten the value from the expense.
As predicated in the First Timers’ Guide, I was hailed upon entry to Tawan last night, except that I turned up before 8PM, their clock-on time (literally – they have to bundy on). I wanted to see the befores and the afters. And I did, muscle lads playing dominoes, smoking, pumping up on equipment and caffeine, all dressed. I was welcomed by the captain, met by the boys from the previous night with out-stretched hands which they avoided by hugging me instead. (Fine by me). I had a drink, explained to the lads that I would be dining alone and acquainting myself with the area before returning at a decent time. They begged that I let them walk with me.
(Lesson: the boys would rather not be on stage.)
So, into the night.
*
I just ushered three straight body builders from my hotel room after a mutually negotiated and mutually satisfying sex session. I tried to run a dignified show, but then these boys took over and four men got off in their own time and in their own way, with no-one’s borders being crossed nor dignity compromised. (For study purposes, each of them was well to very well endowed, and this from what amounts to a random sampling.) Towels and pillows everywhere, but boys are such slobs. I paid each the base rate of B2000 plus another 1000 under various pretexts, so $100 each for a full-on fantasy scenario. Going out drinking with them tomorrow night – to their places. I know one will come back with me, and he’s beautiful. I have a handful of dreams a-comin’.
I’m keeping the complementary toiletries bag for another slim young thing I found at Nature Boys. (What? I was a Boy Scout – be prepared. And know your market.)
Not bad for a first-timer, methinks.
Bangkokbois said:
Thank you Caleb! Wonderful, wonderful story.
Not bad for a first timer methinks too.
Though pictures would have been nice 🙂 I enjoyed your tale so much I’ve posted it as an article so others can enjoy it too.
Thanks for the laughs. And the chub.
Hope to hear more about your adventures . . .
Caleb Wickham said:
Details, details, details.
The muscle mag meant the only thing turned on in the room was me; the television never stood a chance. No mobile phones, either.
The First-timers’ Guide mentioned the malodorous scent of the farang, a by-product of dairy-rich diets, so I re-scented the room with some ginger and sandalwood oils. The curtains and bedhead will never be the same but the scent covered the smell of cigarette smoke from the floor above from me, and the smell of me from the boys. (Less is more!)
The other huge surprise (to all) was the lubricant I supplied. When I was a boy (no-one is born old) there was a product called Hot Stuff, part of the Wet Stuff range; well, it’s out there again. I used it on the boys and two out of the three loved it; the third preferred to be masturbated dry.
Stopping at a convenience store is a great move. They get their fags (cigarettes; I’m Australian), some extra water, a couple of rum spritzers for me (or general consumption), toothbrushes and some massage oil as required.
After the second night I could happily send the same boys up with the key to my room while I organised extra towels and pillows. Nothing was touched, nothing even moved. Everyone showered separately but the boys didn’t need a toothbrush. If you throw the Boomerang of Trust it’ll come back. (*cheesy*) And I to Tawan.
Bangkokbois said:
I’ve heard stories, but have never had any bar boy steal stuff from me either. I suspect if you act like they are thieves you heighten your chances of losing something out of spite.
Caleb Wickham said:
Details, details, details.
The muscle mag meant the only thing turned on in the room was me; the television never stood a chance. No mobile phones, either.
The First-timers’ Guide mentioned the malodorous scent of the farang, a by-product of dairy-rich diets, so I re-scented the room with some ginger and sandalwood oils. The curtains and bedhead will never be the same but the scent covered the smell of cigarette smoke from the floor above from me, and the smell of me from the boys. (Less is more!)
The other huge surprise (to all) was the lubricant I supplied. When I was a boy (no-one is born old) there was a product called Hot Stuff, part of the Wet Stuff range; well, it’s out there again. I used it on the boys and two out of the three loved it; the third preferred to be masturbated dry.
Stopping at a convenience store is a great move. They get their fags (cigarettes; I’m Australian), some extra water, a couple of rum spritzers for me (or general consumption), toothbrushes and some massage oil as required.
After the second night I could happily send the same boys up with the key to my room while I organised extra towels and pillows. Nothing was touched, nothing even moved. Everyone showered separately but the boys didn’t need a toothbrush. If you throw the Boomerang of Trust it’ll come back. (*cheesy*) And I to Tawan.
Caleb Wickham said:
Night 3 and I was turned away from Tawan because they ‘were eating’ (?). It was after 8PM and odd.
Four tonight for dinner. Thai food, nice farang-style place (the boys’ choice.) This time they didn’t order everything on the menu but just what would satisfy them. I pointed this out, that they weren’t testing my reaction this time. They grinned at each other and one said, “No need.” Uhhh-huh. 15:15.
Back to hotel room via the 7/11, rum spritzers, whisky, soda, water and ice; a boys’ party! Laughs, insults, bad jokes in English and Thai. Rum gone – why is the rum always gone? – so opened a bottle of umeshi that I planned on taking home to Kampot. Well… loud and uninhibited, just in our jocks, we had a great time. One by one they peeled off chair or bed to shower and one by one they held me down, holding and draping themselves languidly over and under me. And these are straight guys! My turn to shower and emerged to find a clear space on the bed amid the phalanx of flesh. I lay and was laid. I did nothing; they had it all in hand.
I remember in my sexual past having to do all the work; I haven’t done or felt anything like this before. Like floating, head bouyed by thighs, hands off to each side, patches of smooth warmth where skin touched. Nothing untoward, nothing unsafe nor dangerous; just five guys getting it on and getting off.
And I’ve got the photos to prove it! They took them, not me. (They wanted photos of themselves in my akubra; after that it was poses and more.)
After each of us had showered again and dressed, we planned a trip to Lao together, all five, for a holiday – their low season on the catwalk. Fine, I know I’ll be footing the bill but being dragged around Thailand and Lao by Laotians and Thais is a very good way to see Asia. And as they do here in Bangkok, they’ll protect me. They already consider themselves my body guards.
So, they want the advantage of my money? There is still an exchange – an entre in to a level of Asian society I couldn’t gain on my own. Priceless. And the thought of travelling with men, a car full of men all younger than me, a four-wheel drive full of muscle-hunk testosterone, crammed in the back seat, door to door thighs. Mull it over…
Caleb Wickham said:
The Asian concept of gift-giving is confusing but I learned my lesson at the hands of a seven-year-old girl in Burma years ago. (In any case you should never accept anything you are proffered by a stranger, wristlets, flowers, subpoenas.) But what do you give a muscle hunk that won’t be pawned?
BCAAs! Branch-chain amino acid capsules are pure protein with a higher uptake than dietary protein, so two tubs of BCAAs bought out between drinks cemented my Nice Guy image. They were all over it: I explained the metabolic effects, the dosages, the time of greatest efficacy; showed them the card of the pharmacist nearby from whom I purchased the stuff. All legitimate, all heart-felt. (Okay, I did leave the price tag on, but didn’t mention the discount I received.) One guy even took one of the product flyers I left around. A gift where the only side effect seems to be respect.
Bangkokbois said:
Great idea Caleb. Any supplments are appreciated. And as with any gift, it shows you personalizd it so it means more to them.
Bangkokbois said:
Wonderful!
Laos will never be the same again.
As for the $$$ – who cares? You’ll be getting the trip of a lifetime at whateever the expense.
LAN said:
So how much was the tip for each guy… I have not been hence don’t know how to bargain or start a tip… Or anything for that matter
Bangkokbois said:
Assuming you’ll be in Bangkok, the average short-time tip is 1,500 baht, the average long-time 2,000. 500 more in either case will make the guy really happy with you.
It’s my opinion, but you should not ‘bargain’ – it’s a tip. Some guys like to handle the ‘how much’ question up front, but tradition says you tip (what you feel is appropriate) at the end of your time together. So no need to discuss finances before your orgasm.
If the guy you want to off quotes a fee up front, he’s probably not a good choice. But if you ignore that warning, then you can go ahead and ‘bargain’. But honestly, it just became about the money then instead of your enjoyment and you will probably not have too good of a time.
stevenseen said:
I went Tawan recently and I enjoy myself there
I took a muscle guy name nop.
He is really nice guy and professional in his work.
A recommenred guy from. Still miss him dearly.
Second day I took s guy name James. Big muscular guy.
He fuck well but no kissing allow.
Rough guy but then to do things in s hurry.
Ask for more tips.
Good fucker but not. Charming
Bangkokbois said:
Yup, like at any gogo bar there’s good offs and not so good offs at Tawan. James has been around for a while now, perhaps he’s gotten too used to the easy money tricks. Nop sounds like a winner though!
Thanks for sharing Steven!
Jim said:
Hi,
Just wondering where can I find guys who are 35-50 in Thailand? Is there a gogo bar for men that age? I’m not into below that age you see.